to ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell along with adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. charles, what do you think. >> spending, spending, spending, for me it's like we'll cut to the chase, let's just take it all away and collapse this thing. it's nuts. it really is nuts. now what bothers me we keep talking about the rich and it's 250,000, it's not rich people, it's small businesses, it's already a disaster as it is, but to have the nerve to come out and say, hey, let's stimulate again and create a few temporary jobs and let's do deficit spending, it's working out. boggles the mind. >> ben stein, that struck me, i'm not surprised at the president and argue na people did other choices in the presidential election, with the president's vision and mitt romney's vision and part of that romney with the idea to leave the rich alone and integral to the president let's not do that, got elected. you could make an argument that taxes going up on the rich and so be it, but this other stuff with the new spending, new stimulus, new jobs measures, i don't think that was part of the el